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Lucilyn: the host should still be mentally where the host was during possession (edited)
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with switching, the tulpa is basically the human now
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we could live out the rest of this body's life switched as if tulpamancy was never a thing
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vs with possession presumably it would not feel nearly as natural or sustainable to try to live the entire life like that
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possessing is tulpas physically controlling the body (parts or all)
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switching is the host and tulpa trading places entirely
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 8/3/2023 2:05 PM
That's our experience, yeah
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Ranger can functionally exist while possessing me, but it was exhausting for her. It would probably be less exhausting now if she tried only possession, but our possession is a little bit different than it was compared to before we learned switching
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Deleted User 8/3/2023 4:40 PM
does anyone have any tips on how to focus on visualization when you cannot do so? either do to aphantasia or something similar? (sorry to interrupt if anything is going on!)
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 8/3/2023 4:43 PM
How To Refocus On Your Wonderland Preface For a long time I struggled with poor visualization, but what I really struggled with is how to focus on my wonderland. When I saw a blur or darkness, I didn’t know how to get a viable image. I thought I was just bad at visualizing until I realized an ima...
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Deleted User 8/3/2023 4:47 PM
thank you
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 8/3/2023 4:50 PM
Sure, no problem! I hope it helps!
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Deleted User 8/3/2023 4:52 PM
i hope so too! i’ve been struggling a lot with visualizing their form, let alone a wonderland
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berockly (TTG) 8/3/2023 4:52 PM
I think my actual visualizing skills are decent
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But my ability to focus on it is bad
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I can see stuff in short flashes
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berockly (TTG) 8/3/2023 5:00 PM
Same
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Deleted User 8/3/2023 5:02 PM
is it possible to simply do a task with them watching? can you talk aloud to them or must it only be done through specific focus
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yes, thats called passive forcing 👍
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Deleted User 8/3/2023 5:03 PM
ah, thank you. i think i can’t do active today. my mind is too busy
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I've been reading stuff to them
5:11 PM
Random wikipedia articles, gonna read comics with them.
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i read 'Perks of Being a Wallflower' with them over the last few weeks
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kb even read the last 2 passages to me as well
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 8/3/2023 5:24 PM
i hope so too! i’ve been struggling a lot with visualizing their form, let alone a wonderland
@deleted_user_0828ca84842d - jump In retrospect I found that was more of a visualization guide than a wonderland one
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Aren't those kinda similar?
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Aren't those kinda similar?
berockly (TTG) 8/3/2023 5:43 PM
wonderlanding uses visualizaiton
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Does anyone have any tips for improving communication with headmates?
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in what metric? Talking at them helps in the early stages, but listening and encouraging autonomy helps in the later stages (at least, in my case)
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Grovyle still in the early stages but Tetzen can sort of communicate with thoughts
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in that case, talk to them; attention is food, so just direct your thoughts their way. If Tetzen can respond, let them, and listen to their responses carefully. If thoughts from them contradict one another, that's normal--they're still building their identity, and will become more consistent over time
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Thanks
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Deleted User 8/4/2023 12:03 AM
what are some good methods of forcing? i know this seems basic but i can’t help but worry i’m doing it wrong
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talking to them, thinkin about them, telling them what you're up to
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attention is food, and you gotta feed them consistently
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FallenVesper 8/4/2023 11:07 AM
So the first tulpa i tried giving birth to i guess she wasnt wanting to be born because i didnt get a word from her or anything to let me know she is there but ever sense i put her own pause i guess you can say and started trying to bring forth another tulpa my mind has been set on talking to her more and my mind has been very interested in her looks and all also. So im guessing that a tulpa way of saying they dont want to be brought into the world just yet and when i started this new tulps she wants to be brought into world clearly because i cant stop saying her name and thinking of her form (edited)
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And im on day 3 of this new tulpa so im legit thinking a tulpa has to want to be brought into are world
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Could this be a accurate?
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berockly (TTG) 8/4/2023 12:09 PM
Well, your beliefs will shape your experience, especially since its a subjective mind type thing
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Anyways, your tulpa could simply be "too young to speak"
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are tulpas irreversible? i'm tempted to try it out due to curiosity but i don't want to schizo out
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I was around for almost 5 years and then disappeared for almost 5 before I got brought back
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all it took was a handshake and not having time to dedicate an hour a day to focusing on me
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 9:45 PM
I don't think you'd 'schizo out' or whatever, unless you have a history of schizophrenia?
9:46 PM
Tulpamancy does not cause schizophrenia, but those who have it may need to take extra precautions. I'm not sure.
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i am fairly sure i don't have any mental disorders
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 9:46 PM
Then you'd probably be fine.
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i was wondering if it could affect my sanity in any way
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not really
9:47 PM
just don't believe people on the internet when they diagnose you with something and you're fine
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/4/2023 9:48 PM
unless you actually have something
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if you see signs by yourself you should go see an actual doctor
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this means don't take internet diagnostics too seriously
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/4/2023 9:49 PM
dr google is your enemy
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i've never explored this concept before so it raises a lot of questions
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don't take guides too seriously; the primary way tulpas are formed is attention and belief
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but what about the ones on the website this server was derived from
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don't take those too seriously either. tulpamancy is a personal practice; guides may offer some help but they're just documents of the writer's experience (edited)
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fair. however, some sort of a guidance really wouldn't hurt
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read all the guides you can get your hands on, experiment to see what works then figure out your own little regimen
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9:56 PM
that's what we did and it's gone great
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the only thing to remember is that consistency is key
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if you can't do a lot some days, do a little
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we've actually made so much more progress than we thought we'd make this early on (edited)
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just do something each day, even if it's not a lot
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the part that probably interests me the most is this "possession" thing in the guide
9:58 PM
does it really appear to the host as if they're not controlling themselves?
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how do you think I'm typing lol
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it's probably not as visceral as you're led to believe but it is pretty nifty regardless
9:58 PM
ymmv for practically every aspect of tulpamancy
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it's less weird than you'd imagine
9:59 PM
nothing feels "different" there's just someone else in the driver's seat
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yeah, the brain still retains awareness, it's just the "you" that you think of when you think about yourself changes
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i had misconceptions about that too
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but like i said it's still really fun
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could i make a tulpa that's actually productive and let it "possess" me?
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yes but that won't fix your life, if you've got problems
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a tulpa switched in will deal with all the same problems you deal with
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if you’d like to have tulpa help you they should try to help you make changes rather than replace you because your tulpa even if t gets excited in the beginning will face same problems as you do and they will end up in similar mindset you are in now
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i don't have many problems other than not being motivated to do certain tasks (edited)
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switching with a tulpa won't help much with that, if at all
10:04 PM
but having a tulpa and being able to talk through issues may help :)
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having someone to discuss my deep dark secrets with would be convenient
10:05 PM
having a tulpa means... having a friend in the same head. the head is the one with the problems re: motivation; having a friend may help you address the problem, but they won't be able to fix the problem just by existing
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i can't make izzy's executive dysfunction go away but i can remind her when she's getting too zoned in on something
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10:05 PM
also hello!
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sometimes what you need is someone to cheer you
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10:05 PM
tulpas can be very good in thag
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I am often called blank's (my host) advocate
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I tell them they deserve nice things and all that, especially when they're feeling down
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it doesn't solve the issue but it can help mitigate the symptoms
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ditto on that
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it is possible to “reparent” yourself and tulp can plan a role in that
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play*
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